diff --git a/selfdrive/locationd/locationd.cc b/selfdrive/locationd/locationd.cc
index 35fbd90e5..b723878e9 100755
--- a/selfdrive/locationd/locationd.cc
+++ b/selfdrive/locationd/locationd.cc
@@ -80,11 +80,10 @@ void Localizer::build_live_location(cereal::LiveLocationKalman::Builder& fix) {
   VectorXd vel_ecef = predicted_state.segment<STATE_ECEF_VELOCITY_LEN>(STATE_ECEF_VELOCITY_START);
   VectorXd vel_ecef_std = predicted_std.segment<STATE_ECEF_VELOCITY_ERR_LEN>(STATE_ECEF_VELOCITY_ERR_START);
   VectorXd fix_pos_geo_vec = this->get_position_geodetic();
-  //fix_pos_geo_std = np.abs(coord.ecef2geodetic(fix_ecef + fix_ecef_std) - fix_pos_geo)
   VectorXd orientation_ecef = quat2euler(vector2quat(predicted_state.segment<STATE_ECEF_ORIENTATION_LEN>(STATE_ECEF_ORIENTATION_START)));
   VectorXd orientation_ecef_std = predicted_std.segment<STATE_ECEF_ORIENTATION_ERR_LEN>(STATE_ECEF_ORIENTATION_ERR_START);
+  MatrixXdr orientation_ecef_cov = predicted_cov.block<STATE_ECEF_ORIENTATION_ERR_LEN, STATE_ECEF_ORIENTATION_ERR_LEN>(STATE_ECEF_ORIENTATION_ERR_START, STATE_ECEF_ORIENTATION_ERR_START);
   MatrixXdr device_from_ecef = euler2rot(orientation_ecef).transpose();
-  //VectorXd calibrated_orientation_ecef = rot2euler(device_from_ecef);
   VectorXd calibrated_orientation_ecef = rot2euler((this->calib_from_device * device_from_ecef).transpose());
 
   VectorXd acc_calib = this->calib_from_device * predicted_state.segment<STATE_ACCELERATION_LEN>(STATE_ACCELERATION_START);
@@ -116,11 +115,10 @@ void Localizer::build_live_location(cereal::LiveLocationKalman::Builder& fix) {
   VectorXd vel_calib_std = rotate_cov(this->calib_from_device, vel_device_cov).diagonal().array().sqrt();
 
   VectorXd orientation_ned = ned_euler_from_ecef(fix_ecef_ecef, orientation_ecef);
-  //orientation_ned_std = ned_euler_from_ecef(fix_ecef, orientation_ecef + orientation_ecef_std) - orientation_ned
+  VectorXd orientation_ned_std = rotate_cov(this->converter->ecef2ned_matrix, orientation_ecef_cov).diagonal().array().sqrt();
   VectorXd calibrated_orientation_ned = ned_euler_from_ecef(fix_ecef_ecef, calibrated_orientation_ecef);
   VectorXd nextfix_ecef = fix_ecef + vel_ecef;
   VectorXd ned_vel = this->converter->ecef2ned((ECEF) { .x = nextfix_ecef(0), .y = nextfix_ecef(1), .z = nextfix_ecef(2) }).to_vector() - converter->ecef2ned(fix_ecef_ecef).to_vector();
-  //ned_vel_std = self.converter->ecef2ned(fix_ecef + vel_ecef + vel_ecef_std) - self.converter->ecef2ned(fix_ecef + vel_ecef)
 
   VectorXd accDevice = predicted_state.segment<STATE_ACCELERATION_LEN>(STATE_ACCELERATION_START);
   VectorXd accDeviceErr = predicted_std.segment<STATE_ACCELERATION_ERR_LEN>(STATE_ACCELERATION_ERR_START);
@@ -130,6 +128,7 @@ void Localizer::build_live_location(cereal::LiveLocationKalman::Builder& fix) {
 
   Vector3d nans = Vector3d(NAN, NAN, NAN);
 
+  // TODO fill in NED and Calibrated stds
   // write measurements to msg
   init_measurement(fix.initPositionGeodetic(), fix_pos_geo_vec, nans, this->gps_mode);
   init_measurement(fix.initPositionECEF(), fix_ecef, fix_ecef_std, this->gps_mode);
@@ -139,7 +138,7 @@ void Localizer::build_live_location(cereal::LiveLocationKalman::Builder& fix) {
   init_measurement(fix.initAccelerationDevice(), accDevice, accDeviceErr, true);
   init_measurement(fix.initOrientationECEF(), orientation_ecef, orientation_ecef_std, this->gps_mode);
   init_measurement(fix.initCalibratedOrientationECEF(), calibrated_orientation_ecef, nans, this->calibrated && this->gps_mode);
-  init_measurement(fix.initOrientationNED(), orientation_ned, nans, this->gps_mode);
+  init_measurement(fix.initOrientationNED(), orientation_ned, orientation_ned_std, this->gps_mode);
   init_measurement(fix.initCalibratedOrientationNED(), calibrated_orientation_ned, nans, this->calibrated && this->gps_mode);
   init_measurement(fix.initAngularVelocityDevice(), angVelocityDevice, angVelocityDeviceErr, true);
   init_measurement(fix.initVelocityCalibrated(), vel_calib, vel_calib_std, this->calibrated);
diff --git a/selfdrive/locationd/paramsd.py b/selfdrive/locationd/paramsd.py
index 03de2d646..9557568ba 100755
--- a/selfdrive/locationd/paramsd.py
+++ b/selfdrive/locationd/paramsd.py
@@ -45,10 +45,12 @@ class ParamsLearner:
       yaw_rate_std = msg.angularVelocityCalibrated.std[2]
 
       localizer_roll = msg.orientationNED.value[0]
+      localizer_roll_std = msg.orientationNED.std[0]
       roll_valid = msg.orientationNED.valid and ROLL_MIN < localizer_roll < ROLL_MAX
       if roll_valid:
         roll = localizer_roll
-        roll_std = np.radians(1.0)
+        # Experimentally found multiplier of 2 to be best trade-off between stability and accuracy or similar?
+        roll_std = 2 * localizer_roll_std
       else:
         # This is done to bound the road roll estimate when localizer values are invalid
         roll = 0.0
diff --git a/selfdrive/test/process_replay/ref_commit b/selfdrive/test/process_replay/ref_commit
index 6ebdb327b..2d3c904da 100644
--- a/selfdrive/test/process_replay/ref_commit
+++ b/selfdrive/test/process_replay/ref_commit
@@ -1 +1 @@
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+280a712ece99c231ea036c3b66d6aafa55548211
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